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Title: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 06.01.2010, 03:29:11
Hi!

Ti ktori mate antik jaky router pouzivate? Som pocul, ze napr. s asusom su problemy...
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 06.01.2010, 03:30:54
asus ne! bpdu guard na antikackom switchi ti zhodi port v momente ako ho tam pripojis kvoli stp protokolu...odporucam linksys...tam to ide vypnut a samozrejme preflashowat na dd-wrt :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 06.01.2010, 03:31:41
dvaja susedia maju Dlink 524 (a nevedia si to zabezpecit alebo maju iba WEP :bannana_guitar:) a funguje OK

na ASUS robi problem STP flooding
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: libra on 06.01.2010, 03:35:59
Ehem, admin!
See: http://www.tu-ke.com/forum/o-nicom/antik-vs-router/ (http://www.tu-ke.com/forum/o-nicom/antik-vs-router/)

:P
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Havran on 06.01.2010, 03:38:31
ja mam Asus a ide v pohode :P
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: stricky on 06.01.2010, 04:10:48
johny tu spamuje... :D a nesleduje forum, tak nech to tu potom lockne
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 06.01.2010, 04:15:03
inac som niekde pocul, ze ked preflashujem aj ASUS na dd-wrt tak potom sa da vypnut STP

JCube, je na tom niečo pravdy?
mam u znamej asus wl-520gC a asi sa bude prechadzat na antik
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 06.01.2010, 04:21:31
Quote from: libra on  06.01.2010, 03:35:59
Ehem, admin!
See: http://www.tu-ke.com/forum/o-nicom/antik-vs-router/ (http://www.tu-ke.com/forum/o-nicom/antik-vs-router/)

:P
hh som pamatal ze bol taky thread ale bol som lenivy vyhladat :)

Quote from: totaluser on  06.01.2010, 04:15:03
inac som niekde pocul, ze ked preflashujem aj ASUS na dd-wrt tak potom sa da vypnut STP

JCube, je na tom niečo pravdy?
mam u znamej asus wl-520gC a asi sa bude prechadzat na antik
na antik fore niekto napisal postup ako treba to spojaznit
http://forum.antik.sk/lan-internet/asus-wl520gc-t357.html (http://forum.antik.sk/lan-internet/asus-wl520gc-t357.html)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 06.01.2010, 04:25:44
Quote from: totaluser on  06.01.2010, 03:31:41
dvaja susedia maju Dlink 524 (a nevedia si to zabezpecit alebo maju iba WEP :bannana_guitar:) a funguje OK

na ASUS robi problem STP flooding
a cez ten Dlink funguje aj tango?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 06.01.2010, 04:28:24
no nainstaloval som ten virtualny STB a islo to (na moje velke prekvapenie, som necakal ze taky lacny crep bude vediet IGMP)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 06.01.2010, 04:35:28
Quote from: totaluser on  06.01.2010, 04:15:03
inac som niekde pocul, ze ked preflashujem aj ASUS na dd-wrt tak potom sa da vypnut STP

JCube, je na tom niečo pravdy?
mam u znamej asus wl-520gC a asi sa bude prechadzat na antik
jop je to tak...
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 06.01.2010, 05:02:27
Quote from: totaluser on  06.01.2010, 04:28:24
no nainstaloval som ten virtualny STB a islo to (na moje velke prekvapenie, som necakal ze taky lacny crep bude vediet IGMP)
nice, hm no ale teraz rozmyslam, ze kabel najprv ide do set-top-boxu a az potom do routera.. takze to je jedno potom :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: DeNaTuReMaN on 06.01.2010, 16:44:16
Na tom Dlink ide cez virtual STB normalny multicast ? (okolo 100 programov ?) Lebo virtual STB pojde na vsetkych routeroch aj ktore nepodporuju IGMP (ako unicast , zopar programov) . Co zatial som pocul tak na Linksysoch robi problem ak si zapnes multicast zhodi ti wifi. A naopak nejaky asus (Asus RT-N15) to zvlada na antiku aj multicast spolu z wifi, a aj multicast cez wifi.
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 06.01.2010, 17:12:39
a aky protection treba? WEP nestaci?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 06.01.2010, 17:22:19
zalezi od susedov..u mna doma staci aj unprotected so skrytym ssid :D ale aspon WPA
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 06.01.2010, 17:35:03
Quote from: DeNaTuReMaN on  06.01.2010, 16:44:16
Na tom Dlink ide cez virtual STB normalny multicast ? (okolo 100 programov ?) Lebo virtual STB pojde na vsetkych routeroch aj ktore nepodporuju IGMP (ako unicast , zopar programov) . Co zatial som pocul tak na Linksysoch robi problem ak si zapnes multicast zhodi ti wifi. A naopak nejaky asus (Asus RT-N15) to zvlada na antiku aj multicast spolu z wifi, a aj multicast cez wifi.

good one

nie mam tam iba 18 programov
v routery jedine co je nastavene je IGMP enabled


takze predsalen ta lacna hracka to nevie :ohmigod:
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 06.01.2010, 17:36:58
ale vie...problem je ze cez virtual si nepozries vsetky programy

okej tak po aktualizacii stb sa da pozriet aj cez virtual tych 64 programov ci kolko ich je
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 06.01.2010, 17:55:57
aha
ok, ja som nahodil najnovsi a mi vypisal ze v mojej lokalite je este neprerobena siet a ide menej programov, lebo idu ako unicast

som z terasy
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 06.01.2010, 18:55:50
ktore by ste kupili z tychto?
http://www.datacomp.sk/sietove-produkty-wifi-wifi-router_c2411.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/sietove-produkty-wifi-wifi-router_c2411.html)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: mishelka on 06.01.2010, 21:31:17
priatel ma dlink tiez, ide v pohode....
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 06.01.2010, 21:34:12
Quote from: Johny Bravo on  06.01.2010, 18:55:50
ktore by ste kupili z tychto?
http://www.datacomp.sk/sietove-produkty-wifi-wifi-router_c2411.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/sietove-produkty-wifi-wifi-router_c2411.html)
wrt54gl :P
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: mishelka on 06.01.2010, 21:40:12
ta taky shitny tam neni jak on ma :D sme kupovali najlacnejsi jaky bol :D
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 07.01.2010, 01:23:54
Quote from: JCube on  06.01.2010, 21:34:12
Quote from: Johny Bravo on  06.01.2010, 18:55:50
ktore by ste kupili z tychto?
http://www.datacomp.sk/sietove-produkty-wifi-wifi-router_c2411.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/sietove-produkty-wifi-wifi-router_c2411.html)
wrt54gl :P
dizajnovo nic moc ale hlavne je aby fungovalo lol
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: citro on 08.01.2010, 01:35:42
no ja mam D-Link 524 akurat som skusal ten VirtualSetoTopBox, ide multicast vsetkych 64 programov aj vysoke rozlisenie, aj cez wifi. Akurat ze je na nom iba G norma wifi dostava riadne zabrat, sem tam kockuje, 2 mb/s, cize ked zoberes nejaky D-Link s N-kovym wifi nemal by si mat problem.
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 08.01.2010, 06:36:35
http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-600-wireless-150-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d46118.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-600-wireless-150-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d46118.html) hm?

alebo potom uz http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-615-wireless-n-home-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d21248.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-615-wireless-n-home-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d21248.html)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 08.01.2010, 06:43:14
pozrel by som si hlavne testy na throughput..to bude asi to co ta najviac zaujima :) tato hracka ma priepustnost asi 660 MBit z wan do lan :D
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: JCube on 08.01.2010, 06:46:44
zabudol som na link :) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002COJEOU?ie=UTF8&tag=small0c-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B002COJEOU (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002COJEOU?ie=UTF8&tag=small0c-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B002COJEOU)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 08.01.2010, 19:50:10
a kde take testy najdem? :) uz mi j*be z citania testov pre tv pre router pre neviem co :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 12.01.2010, 01:31:00
hm podla toho nie je ten DIR-615 najlepsou volbou
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/myincludes/new_page.php?cheap_11n_router_roundup_table_wireless.htm (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/myincludes/new_page.php?cheap_11n_router_roundup_table_wireless.htm)

hm podla toho
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_chart/Itemid,189/ (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/component/option,com_chart/Itemid,189/)
F5D8235 je dobre a v datacome maju F5D8236 takze ono by to mohlo byt aj good ;)
http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 12.01.2010, 02:13:50
kebyze vyberam ja tak idem do tohto
http://www.datacomp.sk/asus-wl-500gp-v-2-wi-fi-router-ap-switch-125-mb-s_d24441.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/asus-wl-500gp-v-2-wi-fi-router-ap-switch-125-mb-s_d24441.html)

ale to hlavne z dovodu 2x USB a DD-WRT FW kde by dokazal plnit jednu skvelu ulohu
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 12.01.2010, 02:38:14
hm to DD-WRT ako vidim je nejaky novy firmware, ale v com je lepsi ako standard...
a naco 2xusb? :)

edit: aha na pripojenie tlaciarne etc.
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 12.01.2010, 02:49:42
jop u mna este aj prepojenie phoenixu na zdielanie kariet

inac sa do usb da dat usb kluc a abootovat z neho, cize mas velku kapacitu flash
celkovo luxusna hracka


inac ak nepotrebujes extra veci, staci aj normalny FW

//

+ tam mas linux, cize do toho vies nainstalovat co chces skoro
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 12.01.2010, 20:54:07
aha no teraz len najst router za rozumnu cenu ktory vie 802.11n s usb :)
hm sice som prisiel na to, ze nepotrebujem usb, lebo router aj tak budem mat pri telke, tak naco :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 12.01.2010, 21:11:20
http://www.datacomp.sk/asus-wl-500w-n-wifi-router-gw-switch-ap-300mb-s_d14343.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/asus-wl-500w-n-wifi-router-gw-switch-ap-300mb-s_d14343.html)

otazka je ako je implementovany ten Draft n a ci to pojde jak ma
otazka 2 je ci to je este priatelna cena alebo ne
kazdopadne naco potrebujes N?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 12.01.2010, 21:51:56
N je novy standard = rychlejsie prenos.. alebo nie?
nah 80 eur je uz skoro 2x tolko ako za ten belkin
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 12.01.2010, 22:13:35
no hej
a vyuzijes ho?

max je 300Mbps
a ako si povedal N je novy standard
vacsina zariadeni ma N Draft 1 alebo N draft 2

ako si to kto implementoval bolo na nom, od rovnakych vyrobcov by to snad aj malo ist OK
ale 100Mbps cez kabel je stale tam, myslis ze to wifi pojde rychlejsie (ovela)?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 12.01.2010, 22:33:48
No urcite to nebude mat 300mbps ale urcite to bude rychlejsi ako g ci ktore (54mbps, ktore urcite nedosiahne 54mbps)..
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: stricky on 12.01.2010, 23:14:55
zase ked nemas v nb n-wifi tak ti aj n-router bude na dve veci...
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 12.01.2010, 23:22:59
Notebook je novy a som pozrel, ze ma n-wifi.. a kupujem router aj do buducna takze urcite sa to zide..
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 12.01.2010, 23:49:01
aha
takye planujes do buducna, ale nechces vela  € za to dat  ;D
ale jednoznacne chces N-ko (aj ked ani NTB ani router N-ko nevedia, vedia ida Draft N)
takze v reale to so stastim pojde 125Mbps

stale mi lepsie pride 54Mbps wifi + 4 portovy 1Gbps switch v routery

tam kde mas prevazne NTB dotiahnes kabel a inde pojdes cez wifi
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 13.01.2010, 03:11:49
no vies medzi 80 eur a 40 eur je dost velky rozdiel... radsej kupim teraz za 40 a o 2 roky vymenim za 40 ako kupit teraz za 80 a mozno aj tak bude treba menit potom :)
hm na gbps potrebujem kable gbps aj kartu gbps.. asi integrovana je gigabitova, len neviem ci antik dava take kable
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 13.01.2010, 03:56:20
Quote from: Johny Bravo on  13.01.2010, 03:11:49
no vies medzi 80 eur a 40 eur je dost velky rozdiel... radsej kupim teraz za 40 a o 2 roky vymenim za 40 ako kupit teraz za 80 a mozno aj tak bude treba menit potom :)
hm na gbps potrebujem kable gbps aj kartu gbps.. asi integrovana je gigabitova, len neviem ci antik dava take kable

ved presne nato som narazal
ze teraz kupis najlacnejsiu srandu co ma 4x100mbps switch v sebe a 54mbps wifinu a ti to urobi rovnaku sluzbu si myslim

inac na gigabit ti staci cat 5e, taky davali asi 4 roky dozadu (mam par metrov pri posteli od leta polozenych, taka fialova buzirka)
ked sa dobre nakrimpuju RJ45-ky, pojde to.
teda ne ze to pojde 1gbps, ale takych 300-450Mbps to da (viac neda napr ani niektora sietovka, lacny 1gbps switch tiez ne)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: citro on 13.01.2010, 05:11:30
kazdy kto dneska kupi iba geckovy rutrik sa ojebe. moj nazor  :D
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: ApokalypS on 15.01.2010, 22:49:44
ja som nemal na vyber, otec kupil asus a vedel som, ze s tym budu problemy..
neslo cosi, ale po tom, co som si nechal poradit, ze nech nahodim novy firmware, tak uz je vsetko v poriadku..
priznam sa, neviem ako je to z TV od antiku cez router, lebo to nepouzivam..
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 16.01.2010, 05:14:42
Quote from: Johny Bravo on  12.01.2010, 01:31:00
http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html)
ako zistim ci toto podporuje IGMP?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 16.01.2010, 05:22:15
hm alebo ono vyzera este dobre:
http://www.datacomp.sk/zyxel-nbg-419n-router-wireless_d57835.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/zyxel-nbg-419n-router-wireless_d57835.html)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: ApokalypS on 16.01.2010, 18:26:26
Quote from: Johny Bravo on  16.01.2010, 05:14:42
ako zistim ci toto podporuje IGMP?
pri tom druhom ti to pise, ze podporuje, ten prvy asi nie..
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 17.01.2010, 03:09:10
jj pri tom druhom vidim :)

takze hlavne potrebujem to IGMP aby slo tango a jake funkcie by mal vediet?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: ApokalypS on 18.01.2010, 19:03:17
tak ja som si stiahol a nainstaloval ten VirtualSTB..
nikde medzi poznamkami sa to IGMP nespomina, ale zakladnych 18 slovenskych kanalov mi ide
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 19.01.2010, 01:50:21
uz existuje 18 SVK kanalov? omg :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 23.01.2010, 04:47:57
ktore by ste brali z tychto? by som chcel objednat uz buduci tyzden :)
http://www.datacomp.sk/zyxel-nbg-419n-router-wireless_d57835.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/zyxel-nbg-419n-router-wireless_d57835.html)
http://www.datacomp.sk/ovislink-airlive-wn-300r-wifis-b-g-n-router_d53283.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/ovislink-airlive-wn-300r-wifis-b-g-n-router_d53283.html)
http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html)
http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-615-wireless-n-home-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d21248.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-615-wireless-n-home-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d21248.html)

alebo to je jedno a mal by som brat, ktore sa mi viac paci? :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: stricky on 23.01.2010, 15:13:10
ja by som sa chcel spytat k tomuto routru http://www.canyon-tech.com/archive/connectivity/wireless/CN-WF514 (http://www.canyon-tech.com/archive/connectivity/wireless/CN-WF514) - ze ho mam, ale antentka sa mi zda byt kus slaba, a preto by som chcel nejaku silnejsie napr. tuto http://www.datacom-ke.sk/antena-ovislink-wai-050-interierova-5dbi-vsesmerova_d10778.html (http://www.datacom-ke.sk/antena-ovislink-wai-050-interierova-5dbi-vsesmerova_d10778.html) , tak ze ci to bude pasovat, alebo su tie antenky univerzalne, popripade nejake zdravotne ucinky ked ju budem mat v izbe
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: kOsTi on 23.01.2010, 16:42:57
tiez mam ten router netusim ako moze byt ta antena slaba, a este k tomu len vramci izby  :trestac:
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: stricky on 23.01.2010, 17:44:17
kosti v izbe je dobra.... ale v byte uz nie, tolkokrat sa to lame ze mi nedojte vsade
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: kOsTi on 23.01.2010, 17:46:39
co ja viem... ja som ho mal uz v 3 roznych bytoch a pohoda, divne
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: stricky on 24.01.2010, 10:14:04
budem musiet kopnut asi do povodnej antenky
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 29.01.2010, 23:51:39
Quote from: Johny Bravo on  23.01.2010, 04:47:57
ktore by ste brali z tychto? by som chcel objednat uz buduci tyzden :)
http://www.datacomp.sk/zyxel-nbg-419n-router-wireless_d57835.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/zyxel-nbg-419n-router-wireless_d57835.html)
http://www.datacomp.sk/ovislink-airlive-wn-300r-wifis-b-g-n-router_d53283.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/ovislink-airlive-wn-300r-wifis-b-g-n-router_d53283.html)
http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/belkin-n-router-f5d8236nv4_d36661.html)
http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-615-wireless-n-home-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d21248.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/d-link-dir-615-wireless-n-home-router-with-4-port-10-100-switch_d21248.html)

alebo to je jedno a mal by som brat, ktore sa mi viac paci? :)
nikto nic? :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 30.01.2010, 16:24:10
co poviete na tento
http://www.datacomp.sk/linksys-wrt160n-rm-wireless-n-broadband-router_d53835.html (http://www.datacomp.sk/linksys-wrt160n-rm-wireless-n-broadband-router_d53835.html)
?
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: totaluser on 30.01.2010, 17:07:50
nema odnimatelnu antenku
ta povodna ma gain len 1,5dBi

je to len Draft-N

toto je dolezite si uvedomit :ropebanana:

inac linksys je dobra znacka (made by Cisco ak sa dobre pamatam)

ak ma aj tvoja wifi karta IBA Draft-N co predpokladam ze ma
tak je otazne ako rychlo to pojde
mozno len 130mbps napriklad

Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: Johny Bravo on 01.02.2010, 01:48:43
jj viem, existuju nejake ne-draft-n routre vobec? :)
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: karol31 on 05.05.2012, 00:02:30
Caute ;D Ja používam Netgear JWR2000 a ide v pohode telka aj na po wi-fi http://www.qcomp.sk/shopping/product_details.php?idp=mJWNR2000-100PES (http://www.qcomp.sk/shopping/product_details.php?idp=mJWNR2000-100PES) bp
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: ApokalypS on 05.05.2012, 17:42:11
fajn, ze tahas takyto old topic zo zahrobia tohto fora
Title: Re: Router + Antik
Post by: karol31 on 05.05.2012, 21:08:26
Ako sa vraví informácii nieje nikdy dosť. Táto téma je stále určite aktuálna a už aj Orange ponúka iptv 15 kanálov vo vlc :P