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FEI archív 2011/2012 => 5. ročník => Topic started by: jardo on 20.09.2011, 16:42:43
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co bolo na prvej prednaske? Niejake dolezite veci? ako napriklad ci budu prednasky na nete, alebo ci na ne treba povinne chodit?
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povedal o com bude tento predmet, ked sa dobre pametam na prvych 5 prednasok bude on prednasat a na zvysne pridu z nejakych firiem, prednasky nie su povinne, hovoril ze nic nemame pisat ze da na moodle materialy
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v utorok o 9:10 na cviku chcel nejaky chalan robit projekt s niekym s ineho cvika. Ak to bolo cviko v pondelok po prednaske tak by som sa aj vymenil.
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aj Rakusaci maju zmysel pre humor, velmi dobra studijna literatura...
- http://ameise.uni-klu.ac.at/ameise/en/index.php/FAQ (http://ameise.uni-klu.ac.at/ameise/en/index.php/FAQ)
- http://ameise.uni-klu.ac.at/ameise/en/index.php/AboutTheProject (http://ameise.uni-klu.ac.at/ameise/en/index.php/AboutTheProject)
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No, nepodeli sa niekto, ze co do tej sablony vpisat? Napr. ten posledny stlpec "Corresponding document" tam sa co bude vpisovat? a tiez Requirements elicitation sa akym prikazom spusti?
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no k tym dokumentom treba len nazov napisat, lubovolny tak aby prisluchal danej ulohe
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Tento topic sa nema volat KaMS namiesto KaSM?
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:D
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KaMSV
(dokonca takto, podla moodla :D )
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Ako to hovoril, ako sa dostaneme ku loginu a ku heslu ??? lebo som mu nic nerozumel na hodine. a odkial to mame stiahnut ten klient, ako sa tam napojit atd atd.
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no na moodli je uz client, ale su tri. Preco? treba instalovat vsetky alebo nie?
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no na moodli je uz client, ale su tri. Preco? treba instalovat vsetky alebo nie?
tak si vyberies klienta podla toho jaka si skupina. ked napriklad 10 (myslim skupiny vo dvojiciach) tak si stiahnes prveho klienta. Toho klienta maju skupiny od 1 az po 30. Potom extractnes subor kliknes na jar, prihlasis sa podla toho zas ktora si skupina, instrukcie na moodli https://moodle.fei.tuke.sk/mod/resource/view.php?id=3636 (https://moodle.fei.tuke.sk/mod/resource/view.php?id=3636), a potom si zmenis heslo v tabe Profil. Good luck ;)
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To snad nemyslia vazne, prave zacnem robit simulaciu a po 10 commandoch mi to cele zamrzne a uz sa ani neda prihlasit ... WTF ??
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na moodli pise ze 17.10 nie je cviko po prednaske, viete o tom viac, ide niekto na cviko?
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Prednaska je zrusena, cvicenie nie.
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zdravim,
skusal uz niekto simulaciu? pretoze sme sa dostali do stavu testovania, ale pri teste systemu nedostavame ziadny report, ako keby system nebol nakodeny iba moduly. netreba dat pred testovanim integraciu? alebo sme na nieco zabudli ?
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zdravim,
skusal uz niekto simulaciu? pretoze sme sa dostali do stavu testovania, ale pri teste systemu nedostavame ziadny report, ako keby system nebol nakodeny iba moduly. netreba dat pred testovanim integraciu? alebo sme na nieco zabudli ?
My uz mame simulaciu uspesne za sebou, normalne po spraveni designu a opraveni (resp uz pocas) sme dali kodovat, koduje sa zaroven aj system aj moduly. normalne sme potom dali testovat system a moduly. musis si pockat kym ti testovanie ukonci az tak ti vyjde z toho report a potom das correct tested code a vyberies koho a potom vyberies ze podla ktoreho review ... integraciu sme nedavali pred testom systemu.
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- trvanie projektu - 100.72%
- finančné náklady projektu - 103.83%
- koľko z požadovanej "funkčnosti" bolo implementovaných - 97%
- koľko chýb obsahuje kód - 117%
(viac % je lepšie)
na prvý pokus nie zlé :) like a boss
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ja si myslim ze financie budu u mna problem na prve pouzitie :D ale znie to pekne ze kod obsahuje 117% chyb :D to ako keby si mal viac chyb jak kodu :D
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- trvanie projektu - 100.72%
- finančné náklady projektu - 103.83%
- koľko z požadovanej "funkčnosti" bolo implementovaných - 97%
- koľko chýb obsahuje kód - 117%
(viac % je lepšie)
na prvý pokus nie zlé :) like a boss
Takéto kategórie sú na moodli dané v interpretácií výsledkom. Inak ten program vyhodil dačo také:
Given the objectives as 100 percent and positive deviations (i.e. in case you performed better than required) with values greater than 100 and negative deviations with values less 100, respectively, compared to the customers's objectives you performed as follows: achievement of budget: 103.3 percent, achievement of deadline: 100.72 percent, achievement of functionality (compared to the objectives): 101.6 percent, achievement of functionality (compared to total functionality): 97.0 percent, achievement of quality (corectness): 117.78 percent.
With a relief, the customer accepts your software :D
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ten modul design a system design spolu suvisia, alebo to mozu robit sucasne dvaja odlisny ludia?
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Suvisi to spolu tym, ze tie fazy nasleduju po sebe, robit ich ale mozu aj dvaja rozni zamestnanci.
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Suvisi to spolu tym, ze tie fazy nasleduju po sebe, robit ich ale mozu aj dvaja rozni zamestnanci.
ale nemozu ich robit naraz?
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Ak je minimalne 50% System designu hotovych da sa zacat s Modul Design, avsak neopravne chyby v System designe sposobia chyby v Modul designe.
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Ak je minimalne 50% System designu hotovych da sa zacat s Modul Design, avsak neopravne chyby v System designe sposobia chyby v Modul designe.
a kde sa da pozriet kolko percent ma s toho designu hotoveho alebo kolko kodu uz ma hotoveho
a este jedna otazocka, ked si jednotlive ulohy pozries tak ti ukaze na kolko percent splnaju pozadovanu funkcionlitu, kazda uloha by mala splnat 100 percent, alebo by mala splnat len urcitu cast a 100 percent je funkcionalita cleeho produktu
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Suvisi to spolu tym, ze tie fazy nasleduju po sebe, robit ich ale mozu aj dvaja rozni zamestnanci.
ale nemozu ich robit naraz?
niekedy ti napise ze moze este nieco ine robit okrem svojej aktualnej prace ... no zavisi to od toho co robi ... treba skusat
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Suvisi to spolu tym, ze tie fazy nasleduju po sebe, robit ich ale mozu aj dvaja rozni zamestnanci.
ale nemozu ich robit naraz?
niekedy ti napise ze moze este nieco ine robit okrem svojej aktualnej prace ... no zavisi to od toho co robi ... treba skusat
myslel som to tak, ze tieto dve ulohy (system design a modul design) ci sa daju robit naraz paralelne
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SystemDesign a ModuleDesign sa da robit paralelne, ale musi to robit kazde iny clovek v takom pripade. Jeden clovek vie robit naraz iba jednu vec v konkretnom case, jedinou vynimkou je review (akakolvek), tu vie robit aj popri inej praci.
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SystemDesign a ModuleDesign sa da robit paralelne, ale musi to robit kazde iny clovek v takom pripade. Jeden clovek vie robit naraz iba jednu vec v konkretnom case, jedinou vynimkou je review (akakolvek), tu vie robit aj popri inej praci.
no to viem ze len review sa da rbit s inymi ulohami, len som myslel ci na seba ttie dve ulohy nenadvezujej, ale ked sa daju robit sucasne tak asi nie
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Uz so pisal, musi byt dokoncenych aspon 50%(tak je to v navode) z predoslej cinnosti, ktorej vysledkom je vzdy nejaky dokument. Prikaz, ktory ti zobrazi aktualny stav je: show me <nazov dokumentu>
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nespomenul vcera na prednaske, ze buduci tyzden v pondelok nebude cviko ? Kedze nemame dekanske volno bars sa mi kvoli jednemu cviku do skoly nechce prist.
EDIT: ok, ina otazka, ide dakto na cviko dnes ?????
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dokedy treba mat hotovu druhu simulaciu ?
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Pretoze som pocul, ze malo z vas videl ten obrazok co len tak preklikal na prednaske, tak voala ;) :ropebanana:
http://asiapac.com.au/images/THE_SOFTWARE_DEVELOPMENT_PROJECT.jpg (http://asiapac.com.au/images/THE_SOFTWARE_DEVELOPMENT_PROJECT.jpg)
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Je este niekto taky, co ma len neuspesnu simulaciu za sebou a nejde mu prihlasit do AMEISE??
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no ja mam zatial neuspesne pokusy ale do systemu mi ide prihlasit...takze bud skus teraz alebo mozno davas chybne prihlasovacie udaje
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Skusil som aj druheho clienta a tam pise ze zle prihlasovacie udaje ale treti client vypisuje ze nema spojenie
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ako zistim ze ci som uspel alebo nie?
The customer has tested the system carefully. Paul Koenig gives you a final statement about the project and the quality of the sofware produced. Delivery of the system was planned for 2012/07/08/08:00. The actual delivery was at 2012/07/20/08:00. This is a deviation of 12 days. The customer is not completely satisfied with the delivery date. Delivery took place 12 days too late. The customer had a number of disadvantages due to the late introduction of the new system. The actual costs for developing the system amounts to 251020.0 EUR. The planned costs amounted to 225000.0 EUR. This is a deviation of 26020.0 EUR. So, you exceeded the budget by 26020.0 EUR. Don't think that I am going to pay for your bad performance in the project. The functionality requested by the customer amounted to 200.88 Adjusted Function Points. The customer has found 196.88 Adjusted Function Points in the system. The code contains 9648 lines of code. The customer is very satisfied with the completeness of the code. The code contains 98.0092 percent of the functionality required by the customer. The customers requirements for the system were that it does not contain more than 12.0 errors per thousand lines of code. The actual delivered system contains 8.6 errors per thousand lines of code. The correctness of the system is excellent. The system contains 8.6 errors per thousand lines of code. These are 3.4 less than originally required by the customer. The customer has also asked for user documentation. The user manual comprises 257 pages. The user manual should cover 200.88 Adjusted Function Points, in fact, it describes a functionality that equals 194.44 Adjusted Function Points. The completeness of the user manual is excellent. 96.7953 of the required functionality is described in the manual. The correctness of the user manual required by the customer is 0.5 errors per page. The customer has found 0.2 errors per page. The correctness of the user manual is very good (0.2 per page). The user manual contains 0.3 errors per page less than specified. The customer rejects the product because you exceeded the budget to much. He is very upset. The project was stopped after 291 development days. The total effort for the system development reached 19.45 man months. The amount of the costs thereby incurred is 251020.0 EUR. The document Specification consists of 88 pages. It contains 198.2 AFP. Thereby 98.67 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Specification still contains 49 errors. This is an average of 0.56 errors per page. The document Systemdesign consists of 86 pages. It contains 195.5 AFP. Thereby 97.32 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Systemdesign still contains 63 errors. This is an average of 0.73 errors per page. The document Moduledesign consists of 127 pages. It contains 192.12 AFP. Thereby 95.64 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Moduledesign still contains 100 errors. This is an average of 0.79 errors per page. The delivered code consists of 9648 lines of code. It contains 196.88 AFP. This means 98.01 percent of the system requirements are fullfilled. The code still contains 31 errors resulting from analysis, 10 errors resulting from system design, 13 errors resulting from module design and 29 errors resulting from implementation. This means 8.6 errors per 1000 lines of code. The document Manuals consists of 257 pages. It contains 194.44 AFP. Thereby 96.8 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Manuals still contains 51 errors. This is an average of 0.2 errors per page. The effort distribution among the particular phases of the software development process is as follows: analysis and specification required 1.16 man months, for system design there were 4.63 man months needed, the implementation required 4.95 man months, the test 6.48 man months and the system documentation 2.22 man months. The reviews required an effort of 1.89 man months, the tests required 2.24 man months, the correction after review required 1.32 man months and the correction after test 4.24 man months. To develop the system you invested a total effort of 19.45 MM. In total you spent 12906.7 EUR per MM. The effort was distributed among the different development phases as follows: specification phase: 6.0 percent, design phase: 23.8 percent, coding phase: 25.5 percent, testing phase: 33.3 percent and documentation phase: 11.4 percent of total effort. Given the objectives as 100 percent and positive deviations (i.e. in case you performed better than required) with values greater than 100 and negative deviations with values less 100, respectively, compared to the customers's objectives you performed as follows: achievement of budget: 88.44 percent, achievement of deadline: 95.7 percent, achievement of functionality (compared to the objectives): 102.53 percent, achievement of functionality (compared to total functionality): 97.29 percent, achievement of quality (correctness): 144.31 percent. The customer has applied his scoring system to evaluate software systems delivered by external software houses. You have got 678 points for your project. You can reach a maximum of 1200 points. The simulation is finished. Please try again and start a new simulation. The simulation is finished. Please try again and start a new simulation.
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ako zistim ze ci som uspel alebo nie?
The customer has tested the system carefully. Paul Koenig gives you a final statement about the project and the quality of the sofware produced. Delivery of the system was planned for 2012/07/08/08:00. The actual delivery was at 2012/07/20/08:00. This is a deviation of 12 days. The customer is not completely satisfied with the delivery date. Delivery took place 12 days too late. The customer had a number of disadvantages due to the late introduction of the new system. The actual costs for developing the system amounts to 251020.0 EUR. The planned costs amounted to 225000.0 EUR. This is a deviation of 26020.0 EUR. So, you exceeded the budget by 26020.0 EUR. Don't think that I am going to pay for your bad performance in the project. The functionality requested by the customer amounted to 200.88 Adjusted Function Points. The customer has found 196.88 Adjusted Function Points in the system. The code contains 9648 lines of code. The customer is very satisfied with the completeness of the code. The code contains 98.0092 percent of the functionality required by the customer. The customers requirements for the system were that it does not contain more than 12.0 errors per thousand lines of code. The actual delivered system contains 8.6 errors per thousand lines of code. The correctness of the system is excellent. The system contains 8.6 errors per thousand lines of code. These are 3.4 less than originally required by the customer. The customer has also asked for user documentation. The user manual comprises 257 pages. The user manual should cover 200.88 Adjusted Function Points, in fact, it describes a functionality that equals 194.44 Adjusted Function Points. The completeness of the user manual is excellent. 96.7953 of the required functionality is described in the manual. The correctness of the user manual required by the customer is 0.5 errors per page. The customer has found 0.2 errors per page. The correctness of the user manual is very good (0.2 per page). The user manual contains 0.3 errors per page less than specified. The customer rejects the product because you exceeded the budget to much. He is very upset. The project was stopped after 291 development days. The total effort for the system development reached 19.45 man months. The amount of the costs thereby incurred is 251020.0 EUR. The document Specification consists of 88 pages. It contains 198.2 AFP. Thereby 98.67 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Specification still contains 49 errors. This is an average of 0.56 errors per page. The document Systemdesign consists of 86 pages. It contains 195.5 AFP. Thereby 97.32 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Systemdesign still contains 63 errors. This is an average of 0.73 errors per page. The document Moduledesign consists of 127 pages. It contains 192.12 AFP. Thereby 95.64 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Moduledesign still contains 100 errors. This is an average of 0.79 errors per page. The delivered code consists of 9648 lines of code. It contains 196.88 AFP. This means 98.01 percent of the system requirements are fullfilled. The code still contains 31 errors resulting from analysis, 10 errors resulting from system design, 13 errors resulting from module design and 29 errors resulting from implementation. This means 8.6 errors per 1000 lines of code. The document Manuals consists of 257 pages. It contains 194.44 AFP. Thereby 96.8 percent of the customer requirements are covered. The Manuals still contains 51 errors. This is an average of 0.2 errors per page. The effort distribution among the particular phases of the software development process is as follows: analysis and specification required 1.16 man months, for system design there were 4.63 man months needed, the implementation required 4.95 man months, the test 6.48 man months and the system documentation 2.22 man months. The reviews required an effort of 1.89 man months, the tests required 2.24 man months, the correction after review required 1.32 man months and the correction after test 4.24 man months. To develop the system you invested a total effort of 19.45 MM. In total you spent 12906.7 EUR per MM. The effort was distributed among the different development phases as follows: specification phase: 6.0 percent, design phase: 23.8 percent, coding phase: 25.5 percent, testing phase: 33.3 percent and documentation phase: 11.4 percent of total effort. Given the objectives as 100 percent and positive deviations (i.e. in case you performed better than required) with values greater than 100 and negative deviations with values less 100, respectively, compared to the customers's objectives you performed as follows: achievement of budget: 88.44 percent, achievement of deadline: 95.7 percent, achievement of functionality (compared to the objectives): 102.53 percent, achievement of functionality (compared to total functionality): 97.29 percent, achievement of quality (correctness): 144.31 percent. The customer has applied his scoring system to evaluate software systems delivered by external software houses. You have got 678 points for your project. You can reach a maximum of 1200 points. The simulation is finished. Please try again and start a new simulation. The simulation is finished. Please try again and start a new simulation.
The customer rejects the product, takze nie
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thanks
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trocha OT ale pre niekoho dolezita info: vcera (29.11.) mi po skonceni cvika Samuelis dal do ruky ciernobiely "zebrovity" zapisnik s tym ze si ho tam niekto zabudol, takze momentalne ho mam ja... komu chyba nech mi napise PM
MOD: podla mna to nie je OT
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faust, ten zapisnik takmer s istotou viem, ze nie je z nasej skupiny...
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som pocul taku informaciu, ze zo skusky je potrebne mat nadpolovicny pocet bodov aj ked mam zapocet napr. 40 bodov ... je to pravda? ... dufam ze nie :-/
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caute, na skuske bude test, ci ako to bude prebiehat, nevravel nic?
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na zaciatku spomínal moodle skusku ale v moodli su dajake otazky cize tazko povedat :D
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som pocul taku informaciu, ze zo skusky je potrebne mat nadpolovicny pocet bodov aj ked mam zapocet napr. 40 bodov ... je to pravda? ... dufam ze nie :-/
to uz ked zapocet bol taky tazky tak skusku chcem aspon na full :(
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ktora to je miestnost ta PK6_PC16 ?
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sak PC16 v pc centre :D
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sak PC16 v pc centre :D
on ale myslel, ze presne ktora miestnost to je, ci su tam kompy alebo nie
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sak PC16 v pc centre :D
on ale myslel, ze presne ktora miestnost to je, ci su tam kompy alebo nie
presne tak som to myslel , diki
takze ktora?
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mari sa mi ze vlavej chodbe ta napravo s kompmi... ale stopro ti to nepoviem
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PC 16
(https://www.tu-ke.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpc.fei.tuke.sk%2Fpics%2Fpc16.jpg&hash=c89010135b989dd558d3ebc6f8bd88d7372dbdcd)
viď: http://pc.fei.tuke.sk/sluzby-sk.shtml (http://pc.fei.tuke.sk/sluzby-sk.shtml)
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super, cize je moznost ze bude test :)
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presne tuto som myslel D:
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Veď to aj vravel, že bude iba test. bu
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a to som sa pytal stranu dozadu a nikto nic... :ohmigod:
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no to je jasne, ze bude test ... ale i musis mat polovicu z toho testu ... alebo staci len 51 bodov spolu so zapoctom je otazne
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dojdes na skusku dostanes z tych "zverejnenych" 26 otazok 20 otazok na 25minut a ides het :D akoze co si tu ideme rozpravat? :D
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asi tak jak radix hovori, a myslim, ze tych 50% zo skusky je riadny blud...
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pre buducich piatakov ... staci si pozriet vypracovane otazky a logickou uvahou a postupnym vyradovanim naklikas test v poho ... bolo 20 otazok ... vacsinou mulitchoice (1 a viac spravnych ale nie vsetky spravne)
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Heslo do moodla ste mali ake, ze my buduci piataci sme tam nakukli..