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TBIS II - rule engine
« on: 05.10.2008, 22:14:32 »
zacal uz niekto zadanie? skusali ste davat nejake rule based komponenty do toho? robi niekto v c#? jak to ma fungovat?
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #1 on: 06.10.2008, 12:39:31 »
este sme nic nezacali a tiez neviem jak to ma presne fungovat.. My sme sa zhodli na tom, ze to ma byt uplne jednoduchy program, ktory musi fungovat na zaklade nejakych pravidiel.. Cize ty mu nieco zadas ako pouzivatel a on na zaklade nejakych pravidiel z toho nieco vyvodi.. viac neviem bn bk
  

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #2 on: 06.10.2008, 19:36:15 »
jj, nieco podobne jak sme mali ten maly programcek na UI-fuzzy kde si zadal odpovede na otazky ktore sa ta pytal program a na zaklade nejakych vopred zadefinovanych pravidiel ti nakoniec program vypisal ze mas si kupit take a take auto...

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #3 on: 06.10.2008, 19:58:06 »
no to je vsetko pekne ale nic nove mi to nedalo :) hladate take komponenty jak csaba spominal alebo si spravite DIY komponent? (if, else... :D )
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #4 on: 06.10.2008, 20:32:00 »
my sme si robili vlastnú funkcionalitu pre pravidlá... ale robili sme to v php, takže sa to nahádzalo do podmienok a potom cez fciu eval...
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #5 on: 07.10.2008, 01:51:05 »
cize postaci hardcodovane riesenie? netreba dynamicky ?
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #6 on: 07.10.2008, 01:53:53 »
ono to bolo aj dynamicky... sme tam mali nejaký formulár ku tomu, kde si človek vyplnil, čo chcel vlastne dostať na výstup...
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #7 on: 07.10.2008, 01:56:10 »
cize postaci hardcodovane riesenie? netreba dynamicky ?

ta podla mna to treba dynamicky  sak o tom su rule enginy  ze sa vyhnes milion sto if else

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #8 on: 07.10.2008, 02:06:35 »
ak to budeš robiť from skratch, tak sa nevyhneš... len to zmeníš tak, že budeš mať dynamické podmienky, ktoré si nastaví user...
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #9 on: 07.10.2008, 04:49:42 »
cize postaci hardcodovane riesenie? netreba dynamicky ?

ta podla mna to treba dynamicky  sak o tom su rule enginy  ze sa vyhnes milion sto if else

nam milion netreba
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #10 on: 08.10.2008, 00:35:12 »
cize postaci hardcodovane riesenie? netreba dynamicky ?

ta podla mna to treba dynamicky  sak o tom su rule enginy  ze sa vyhnes milion sto if else

nam milion netreba

ta potom co riesis  :)  ked mas malo podmienok ta to si uz mal mat hotove ;)

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #11 on: 08.10.2008, 04:31:38 »
ta hej ale zase ked to ma byt rule engine tak nieco sa treba naucit, ked tam dame if-else 10x tak to sme zas na urovni prvackeho zadania
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« Reply #12 on: 08.10.2008, 05:00:53 »
ta hej ale zase ked to ma byt rule engine tak nieco sa treba naucit, ked tam dame if-else 10x tak to sme zas na urovni prvackeho zadania

tak tak ;)   ale flipne su tie rule enginy  len zle je ze na tom ze ktory si vybrat    co produkt to ina syntax pochybna dokumentacia :)   ale ta daco uz vyberiem no...

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #13 on: 08.10.2008, 05:01:28 »
ale ty robis v jave (java suxxx) ne?
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #14 on: 08.10.2008, 06:51:30 »
ale ty robis v jave (java suxxx) ne?
to je co za verzia ? ta co pises... java suxxx ? :P

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #15 on: 08.10.2008, 15:30:04 »
ale ty robis v jave (java suxxx) ne?

no hej robim  ale neverim ze pre .NET nic take ako rule engine neexistuje   ucite daco je  (to ci to bude zadarmo neviem  :)  mal by som iste pochybnosti kedze aj pre javu  vacsina rule enginov nie je zadarmo  a tie co su ta stoja za ... :))

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #16 on: 08.10.2008, 15:51:03 »
ale ty robis v jave (java suxxx) ne?
to je co za verzia ? ta co pises... java suxxx ? :P

to je taky base, z ktoreho sa odvyjaju vsetky verzie javy
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #17 on: 14.11.2008, 06:19:48 »
Tu mate body, ktore by ste mali obsiahnut v buduco-tyzdnovej prezentacii zadania z TBIS II (su to veci z toho papiera, co koloval vcera na prednaske z TI):

Obsah
 1. ciele
 2. ciele podrobne
 3. poziadavky
 4. vybrane poziadavky podrobnejsie (tie, ktore urcuju vyber technologii)
 5. ocakavana architektura
 6. ocakavana architektura v detailoch
 7. vybrane postupy - zhrnutie
 8. vybrane postupy - zdovodnenie, detaily
 9. vybrane technologie - zhrnutie
10. vybrane technologie - zdovodnenie, detaily
11. procesny plan projektu vyplyvajuci zo zvolenych postupov a technologii
12. casvoy plan projektu vyplyvajuci zo zvolenych postupov a technologii
13. rozdelenie uloh a zodpovednosti
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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #18 on: 18.11.2008, 01:00:38 »
a to akoze co mam dat do tej prezentacie?? akoze ciele: ... naprogramovat sudoku... ciele podrobne: ... naprogramovat sudoku v jave a pouzit pritom rule engine... ?? ci ako ?? ???
poziadavky: taa treba zeby sa dalo klikat na to :D
fakt neviem co tam mam napisat :D
  

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #19 on: 18.11.2008, 18:36:17 »
a to akoze co mam dat do tej prezentacie?? akoze ciele: ... naprogramovat sudoku... ciele podrobne: ... naprogramovat sudoku v jave a pouzit pritom rule engine... ?? ci ako ?? ???
poziadavky: taa treba zeby sa dalo klikat na to :D
fakt neviem co tam mam napisat :D


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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #20 on: 19.11.2008, 03:42:57 »
a to akoze co mam dat do tej prezentacie?? akoze ciele: ... naprogramovat sudoku... ciele podrobne: ... naprogramovat sudoku v jave a pouzit pritom rule engine... ?? ci ako ?? ???
poziadavky: taa treba zeby sa dalo klikat na to :D
fakt neviem co tam mam napisat :D


netreba zo vsetkeho vedu robit :P

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #21 on: 06.12.2008, 22:58:41 »
eeee,mam taku otazku.. jak spravim ze ked je jeden rule true, nech ide na druhy rule??
take ze


rule "rule#1"
  when
    blabla
  then
     goto rule#2
end

rule "rule#2"
  when
    blabla
  then
    blabla
end

neni take daco??
  

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« Reply #22 on: 10.12.2008, 15:48:12 »
ludia, kto by chcel vidiet prezentacne video z TBIS2 ... tak si kliknite... a nasledne preckajte aj nudnu cast... oplati sa ;)

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Re: TBIS II - rule engine
« Reply #23 on: 15.12.2008, 04:45:51 »
ahojte...
akurat mi csaba napisal ze cviko z TBIS bude tento tyzden iba v utorok od 13.30...
ostatne cvika nebudu :)
doneste zadania, nech uz je pokoj :)
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